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BG Lund's avatar

Don’t forget the pets.

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Craig's avatar

Of course!

I created a Pet Emergency Preparedness Guide & Kit Checklist just for this.

https://onsurvival.gumroad.com/l/PetEmergencyPreparednessGuide?layout=profile

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Guy Valmont's avatar

Eat them.

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Danway's avatar

Eat YOURSELF.

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Howling Wolf's avatar

What a heartless & idiotic thing to say!!!!

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Guy Valmont's avatar

Pets are food.

If the chips are down, you’d eat your dog.

Don’t deny it.

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Howling Wolf's avatar

Never

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MJ Rutledge's avatar

Also, don’t forget: Amazon, Home Depot, and Walmart are being boycotted, since February.

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Craig's avatar

Most of these items can be found in local hardware stores.

Shop local when you can!

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Wm Dawg's avatar

Thanks for the reminder. Saved me the trouble of mentioning fuck Amazon and Walmart.

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Elle0609's avatar

And Target!

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Seeker of the truth's avatar

Winco..independent union and, employee owned

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Maureen Hatfield's avatar

That are also on my boycott list. On Goods Unite Us winco is listed as Republican contributors (at last check)! I was very sad.

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Maureen Hatfield's avatar

Just posted Winco rating from Goids unite us, hoping it improved, but sadly not. 71% contribution level Republican, 21% Dem. The good news: company doesn’t contribute to PAC’s. Still off my list.

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Marta Simmons's avatar

I totally agree with you and have been using alternate sources almost exclusively. It turns out your local hardware store can order just about anything for you in a couple of days. It may even be cheaper or maybe just a bit more. I live in a small town and like to buy local when I can. I may place one order now to Amazon 😉 and then follow up at COSTCO.

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Erin Leigh | WitchySelfHealer's avatar

Or maybe even before then if you had your head out of the sand and some values pre-February…🙄 Don’t forget, fuck Target, too.

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Live Life Not Behind Glass's avatar

Why since february?

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A R's avatar

Because they bent knee to Frump. Amazon was going to list tariff costs as part of each listing. Bezos backed off when he got pressured about it. Similar things for the others mentioned.

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Live Life Not Behind Glass's avatar

Interesting, I guess that’s another thing to add to the list of reasons.

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Howling Wolf's avatar

Spoken like a true Communist!!!!

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Maggie W.'s avatar

All of this is really great, but whether or not there will be a catastrophic crisis, it’s likely there will be food shortages, possibly this winter. I’m an organic farmer in the midwest and we’ve been hit hard by climate issues, tariffs on fertilizer usually bought in Canada (or for me, turkey manure not available bc bird flu wiped out my usual source) and foreign and govt markets are gone, causing some farmers to not bother and just sell their land. You can’t hire help - Americans won’t work in the dirt for the low wages migrant workers have worked. I could go on! So learn to safely can and store food, grow as much as you can (it might be too late for seeds, but vegetable plants are still available), and research what stores well and what you can grow indoors.

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Craig's avatar

Great advice Maggie 👍

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Jody Brink's avatar

I've been seed saving for several years now. I only plant open pollinated varieties.

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Skookum's avatar
1dEdited

It started in the 80s with Reagan and Thatcher and then Clinton.. outsourcing manufacturing, labor and extractive industries to countries with lax regulations. We are hitting the Limits to Growth as debt-based economies, increasing complexity and declining surplus energy are putting pressure on the old business model the chickens are coming home to roost.

So you supposedly have the Democrats fighting the Fascists but they are are dependent on the same dying neoliberal economic model with some form of Digital Biosecurity Apparatus, Stakeholder capitalism and/or Democratic Socialism creeping in as a form of crowd control (vaccine passports), open border (demographic collapse) and mass testing (gene therapy cures) to deal with energy cost of energy, shale decline, overshoot, inflation and overconsumption. Trump is the Heel popping the Debt Bubble and Thiel is the technocrat ushering in the Digital panopticon.

Involuntary Degrowth has no effect on the Elites as they are flying their jets to Davos, command and control economies are meant to create a Neo-fedual state rationing travel and conspicuous consumption; the digital era centralizes this power in a few multinationals (Amazon, Walmart) who thrived during the Covid response, renewables built by coal-fired plants in China ration portable, on-demand generation from fossil fuels as surplus is routed to AI data centers to centralize data and surveillance grids. The brochure is enticing but the lived experience is shivering in the dark and relying on rations while the Elites enjoy the good life ala. the Hunger Games meme. The characters switch sides and the media and political machine drum up "2 minutes of hate" and wedge issues to divide the population while the larger objectives are fulfilled.

While Noam Chomsky was suggesting that the Covid noncompliant be put in quarantine camps and excluded from society Independents were warning about the Technocrats, Neo-con power grabs and Emergency Powers while Bill Gates was pulling off a subscription immunity scam, buying up farmland and the WEF is installing young leaders in cabinets.

The Greens have been pushing for renewables built by China using coal fired plants. Trump the Stooge in a brilliant moment suggested Germany ween itself off Russian gas and nuclear is resurgent. Biden the Face is a tool for Technocrats.

The Democrats were allied with the Neo-cons against Trump and even threw around the Dark Winter meme (read Whitney Webb and Diego's investigative report "All Roads Lead to Dark Winter) if you want to understand how emergency declarations are used to usher in energy and economic resets and rally support for resource nationalism. Welcome to Kayfabe. It's one big club and we aren't in it. Thanks for reading!

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Howling Wolf's avatar

Illegal immigrants are NOT the answer. You are making a very broad statement saying Americans won't work in the dirt. The Commie Biden/Harris/Obama/Soros regime practically bankrupted the U.S. with the invasion of millions upon millions of illegal aliens. Just think of all the diseases that are now surfacing due to the invasion of illegal aliens. You people that want illegal aliens in our country don't even think of the horrific dire consequences of your irrational thinking. A country without borders is NOT a country. God Bless America & God Bless President Trump!!! MAGA

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Maggie W.'s avatar

Hey, I’m just a farmer trying to grow your food.

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Howling Wolf's avatar

You may be a farmer, however, you are promoting illegal immigration which is a detriment to America & her legal citizens.

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Maggie W.'s avatar

Howling Wolf - I get the feeling you might not be running your own farm, and that’s okay, but a lot of misinformation has been promoted and you might be interested in how the legal aspects related to agriculture have functioned for a long time. The LEGAL H2-A Visa program for temporary agricultural workers was modified in the 80s, and has been part of a program that began in 1942. It allows farmers to legally hire temporary ag workers at rates stipulated by their state, as needed. I can only speak for myself - nothing to do with promoting breaking the law whatsoever and I’m sorry you jumped to that conclusion, but these workers do not seem to be available this year in my farming community. People can draw their own conclusions as to why. All attempts to hire help have failed for my farm, and I have seen notices posted by other farms trying to hire local help now at rates twice what the H2-A Visa rates stipulate. My belief is those increased costs will be reflected in both the cost of food and the amount of food available.

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CowboyHats's avatar

Honkeys are the detriment, cracker.

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Susan's avatar

Hater. Pure. Very very simple. Blocked.

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CowboyHats's avatar

Dems still keeping you up at night? 😂

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Howling Wolf's avatar

No, but your TDS is.

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CowboyHats's avatar

You must be a honky. 😂

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Howling Wolf's avatar

No, but your TDS is.

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CowboyHats's avatar

Good! Biden is your daddy.

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Schmendryck's avatar

Schuck a deeck

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Howling Wolf's avatar

Vile & ignorant how befitting of a leftist.

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Schmendryck's avatar

You're screaming into your bathroom mirror again, twinkie.

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Sharon Bouchard's avatar

Watch Rosered Homestead for canning and other living off the grid tips. She has the science down on food preservation. There's a lot of kooky stuff out there.

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Jody Brink's avatar

Don't buy from Amazon or Home Depot, or Walmart, or Target, etc. Buy from your local hardware stores, or order direct from the manufacturer. Don't give money to Bezos or any other billionaire if you can help it.

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Craig's avatar

Buy local when you can.

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RetiredF4's avatar

I've never thought I would read such an advice from happenings like now, causing fear and recomendations to prepare for the worst from the USA. You've always been the free land with only two borders , protected by the vastness of the Pacific and Atlantic ocean, respected in the world for your strength built on the Constitution of your Fathers.

And now this.

Get rid of this president and his cult like movement as soon as possible, and most of your fear and problems will go away.

The free world needs a free Amerika, free citizens, your optimism, your political and military strength. Seeing you in the present state hurts. All the best to you from Europe.

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T Sumrall's avatar

Thanks for the well wishes! But we have actually been going down this road for awhile and this administration is no worse than others. Bush with stripping American of rights with The Patriot Act, which was reapproved last year.

Biden let millions of illegals in our country and made us pay for them. Nothing short of a revolution is going to save us with all members of congress thrown out and started over. The government has us sniping and hating on with other while the make tv drama and work together for the advancement of only themselves

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Susan's avatar

You had me right up until the immigration bullshit.

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SxC's avatar

Right?!?! Such an obvious goddamn lie, but so many have bought into it. There are official records and reports on those records that tell the truth, yet trump has seemingly proven that if you tell a lie enough times, people will believe it. https://www.cato.org/blog/biden-didnt-cause-border-crisis-part-1-summary

And, this post is in part about the high potential for destabilization, which is being caused in part because immigrants are not able to work on the farms that provide our food. What an absolute self-own to complain about the people who have been helping to maintain stability when their disappearance is a huge contributing factor to the coming crisis that is the subject of this whole thread.

Ffs, the film *Idiocracy* wasn’t supposed to be so prophetic.

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Howling Wolf's avatar

The mass invasion of millions upon millions of illegal aliens in the U.S. orchestrated & promoted under the Communist Biden/Harris/Obama/Soros regime is NOT B.S. & quite frankly very factual. Way past time for you to do some rational thinking & get your head out of the sand.

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RetiredF4's avatar

Come on, Trump is unfit to his duty. If you haven't recognized that after all this political and economic damage, and there will be more to come, then you are avoiding the view on reality. By saying that I'm not trying to judge you personally, but that is how it is seen in Europe for a reason. Before Trump US forces had been seen as great safety assets, now they are seen as an uncomfortable liability. 40 years ago I was trained in Texas and California and fell in love with its greatness and excellence, I admired my flight instructors and the US citizens. I personally can't grasp where you are now and where it will end.

It's not the first time that a country elected unfit politicians, the US made that happen twice, and is obviously unable to correct that misjudgement.

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Howling Wolf's avatar

You have got to be kidding me. God & President Trump saved us from the prior Communist regime. Your statement is completely irrational & ludicrous. If the Communist left had remained in office due to cheating again, the U.S. would have been turned into a third world ***hole & all of our freedoms would have been eliminated. God our Heavenly Father allowed the cheating by the left in 2020 to take place so that our eyes would be opened to the evils of the left.

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RetiredF4's avatar

If it's irony, then its the wrong place, because your situation is not funnyat all, and it will get worth if nobody is stopping Trump.

If it's no irony, then

listen and remember my words. You obviously don't even know what a communist is. They had occupied east Germany after WW2 for 45 years, while the American Forces and Nato prevented them to invade the rest of Europe during the cold war. The same communists kill now civilians in Ukraine.

You have to get out of your information bubble to rcognize, that Trump is the biggest desaster the world has seen since Hitler.

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Howling Wolf's avatar

I know exactly what a Communist is & Biden & Obama were the greatest threats to America as they are both Globalists & hate America.

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RetiredF4's avatar

They greatest threat us Trump, not only to America, but to the whole world. He is your " Führer" and you are following him blind on his route to kill also your rights, and ebd democracy.

You will feel it, don't complain then.

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RetiredF4's avatar

Say that in front of your mirror.

Well, that was my answer to Howling Wolf, but he chickened out and deleted his posted nonsense.

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Rachel C's avatar

Top problem for me is Transplant meds. I can only get 90 days supply at a time and must take daily. I try to refill as soon as I can, but it’s hard to stockpile something you must take daily. I don’t really have a plan for a point where the drugs simply aren’t there. I can afford highly prices for a while, but not forever 👹

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Dottie's avatar

We are in the same boat. Hubby is on pain meds which big pharm won’t give any for a few days back up. We have begged and pleaded with the doctor to no end to come up with something to stash. But big pharm calculates to the day. So We will pray when the time comes and we’ll see how this works out.

That praying, brings peace.

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Regina Weiner's avatar

Hi, my better half's got similar problems. I have arthritis myself. Here are legal, cheap and effective pain treatments I use and that keep well in a stockpile:

I can't use aspirin or other NSAIDs. Use coffee or caffeine tablets from Amazon.

Any inflammation yields beautifully to turmeric tablets with black pepper. Bonus points for ginger.

Read up on wild lettuce and learn to keep it preserved. It probably is growing in your backyard, but you can buy the seeds.

These are good pain meds that are actually good for you. Anyone with pain issues now should be doing research now on natural pain control and treatment and stockpiling what works best for you and your family. YouTube has ads for great books on herbal medicine that really helped me when I broke my arm. Worth your money and effort.

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sotoportego's avatar

That sounds tough, Rachel. Best thoughts to you, courage going forward...

🌈🙏

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Mare's avatar

Coffee Coffees and More Coffee

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Craig's avatar

100%

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THIS AMERICAN WANTS...'s avatar

Or, how about helping to figure out a way that everyone gets what they need in a time of crisis? No one hoards, no one does without, no one has to protect or fight over anything, no one has to threaten anyone with violence to get what they need. Now there’s a novel idea…

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Maureen Hatfield's avatar

Start organizing mutual side, and I have been suggesting setting up barter sites in our local areas. Everyone! Daycare, mechanics, plumbers, carpenters, Dr.’s, nurses, teachers, cooks, extra bedrooms.

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Dottie's avatar

That’s wishful thinking and doesn’t get the prepping done.

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Craig's avatar

Definitly a novel ideabut not always practical in reality.

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Lucy Lee's avatar

Alcohol! Both kinds!

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enigmatic proprietary's avatar

Yes wine and whiskey in case you need to clean wounds. 🤪

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Setzekorn's avatar

Your list is essentially what we get together for hurricane season. Except for the warm clothes. We also have tarps and ropes for leaking windows, roofs etc. We’re also careful to have adapters for charging electronics in the car if the power is out for a long period.

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Descendant Of The Ancestor's avatar

I made an emergency kit including all of these items. Everything would easily fit in the back of my car if I had to leave the area. I’d also recommend including a tent and sleeping bag and a fishing rod and reel. And a way to start a campfire even in inclement weather if you find yourself outdoors. Add a couple of pairs of solid boots like hikers, wellies, and a pair of Tevas. Keep all the supplies together in marked bins like Rubbermaid containers. If a crisis strikes, you don’t want to have to think too carefully about where all your supplies are. I have mine in my garage ready to go if need be. Or to shelter in place if that’s the right call for the specific situation. Take a course on outdoor survival if you can. Stay safe everyone!

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AK Hicks's avatar

Detergent for dishes and clothes. Zip-loc and garbage bags. Bottled water. Ice chest.

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Mary Lilith Ruth's avatar

Since the second place hit the tower, my oldest was in infant, ive made sure there is enough food and other supplies on hand . Rotated always, it’s just been a part of living. Now I don’t store enough to last for more than 6 months ( somethings I can’t get like prescriptions) if the world here becomes so bad we would need more to last for longer, I wouldn’t want to last.

I have planted fruit trees, we currently have more berries than we can ever use. This will be good for trading if costs of these things go to high. More my worry than anything else is affording fresh fruits and vegetables. We freeze them. The wildlife is abundant here. From turkeys to deer. The thing I am adding this year is a wood stove to replace the pellet stove. Heat. That doesn’t rely on electricity. I won’t flee this place. I also will plan for departure if it all becomes too tough. I’m physically disabled with mobility issues. I’d rather my sons didn’t have me as a burden when prices skyrocket to the point we are contemplating killing Bambi.

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DANA's avatar

Get stuff to trade, like candy, tobacco, and store some small treats to make life bearable during hardship.

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René Volpi's avatar

Booze and ammo: Big currencies!

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Laura A. Drury's avatar

You might also want to add cleaning supplies: bleach, laundry & dish soap, disinfectant wipes, paper towels…. Also phone chargers (for your car, or a portable phone bank charger ).

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Craig's avatar

Great suggestion.

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D. Williams's avatar

You forgot the one item that’s gonna give you a chance to hang on to all your other goodies when shit hits the fan — a gun.

Without a firearm, you’re gonna be wearing Milk Bone skivvies in a dog-eat-dog world.

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